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webOS:open source::BYU:independence

Travis Grant — Thu, 15 Dec 2011 20:37:06 +0000

First, I should probably apologize for taking back to your high school days and the horrid exams that we force upon your young children. But frankly, I loved these logic questions. I don’t know if I was any good at them, but I thought that they were a lot of fun.

In the unlikely even that you don’t remember how to read the title, it says, “webOS is to open source as BYU is to independence.” The point is to say that I wish to make a comparison between BYU’s decision to make their football program independent from any conference, and HP’s recent decision to make webOS open source.

Most software is “closed” source. That means that you can’t see the internal workings of the software. Almost everything made by Microsoft and Apple is closed source. There are many other closed source programs as well, it is a very common way to produce software and protect your intellectual property. The only way to see how Windows works is by hacking into the software, which isn’t ethical or legal.

However, there is a large body of open source software that is starting to catch hold in the popular society. If you have used Firefox, Chrome, Android, Open Office, GIMP, or Audacity. Then you have used an open source product. Even the software used to help manage this site is open source.

The idea behind open source is that anyone can get into the source to fix a problem or bug. They can also help to make an enhancement in the software. The concept of many hands make light work. Open source is also typically offered as free to the public. It doesn’t mean that someone can’t charge you to use it, it just means that if they are, then you are getting ripped off.

So, what does open sourcing webOS have to do with BYU’s independence. They really have nothing to do with each other, but I think that is a lot of analogies that can be made between the two decisions that were made almost a year from each other.

The first is the concern that many are expressing about the decision. When BYU announced that it was going to take football down the independent road, many people were either afraid for the future of BYU football, or they mocked the decision.

The same can be said about webOS going open source. I have read anything from outright ridicule to thoughts of fear. But just like with BYU’s decision, this fear and ridicule are really just a sign of something else. It is a sign of lack of understanding. Many people didn’t understand BYU’s motivation. Very few football programs have made the “independent” decision. And the same is going on with webOS. People who don’t know what open source means, are confused, lost and scared.

But just like BYU. I believe that webOS has a tough year ahead, of itself, with a lot of work. But if the right amount of effort it put into it, by both the employees of HP and the many webOS loving developers, that webOS could be better than even iOS (don’t get me started on siri, what a joke).

This is really my second point in the comparison. It will not be an easy road. Fortunately, webOS has the backing of HP to go down this road. And HP professes to be fully invested. Time will only tell. I believe them. I think that Meg Whitman is the CEO who is needed to make up for the mistakes that HP has made in the recent past.

I look forward to seeing what happens with webOS, and more specifically webOS product (because that is really the big gaping black hole in this whole mess). I am excited to see webOS become fully open. I believe that it will do better than what many of the pundits are predicting.

I am holding on to my TouchPad, and I look forward to seeing it advance.

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Round Valley Draw & Willis Creek

Travis Grant — Sun, 18 Jul 2010 04:18:09 +0000

As I have done for the past couple of years, I took another great trip to southern Utah’s great red rock country. My friends and I again traveled to the Grant Staircase-Escalante National Monument for some fun slot canyon hikes.

Our original plan was to visit three different slot, but we were only able to visit two of them.

We first arrived at our camping spot around 10:00pm on Jun 10th. It was a great night, and one worth taking the time to explore. Actually, I just wanted to find the geocache that was located at the mouth of the first slot canyon that we were going to hike.

So we headed to the mouth of Round Valley Draw late at night. The cache was easily found, and the it was need to see how different the canyons look in the dark, than in the day time. After making our way back, we set up camp and slept for the night.

The next morning after a quick breakfast of pancakes, bacon, and eggs, we headed back to Round Valley Draw. Perhaps the best part of this hike was a couple of fun descents. We started out with an esay, 10-foot drop (approximately). Then we enjoyed a casual stroll until the next drop which was a little more technical, but was still easy (especially with the help of the rope that is available there).

After that hike it was fairly casual until we reached the exit. The exit proved to be the hardest part of this hike. It wasn’t technical, as much as it was physically exerting. But it ultimately resulted in a beautiful view back into the canyon. The hike back to the mouth of the canyon was a easy, and it provided a couple on great views of the wild flowers and a couple of hoodoos.

We finished this hike just around lunch time, so we went to Grosvenor’s Arch. This was great for me, because it also features a great Earth Cache to find. We had decided earlier that this would be a good place for lunch. We didn’t realized that there were actually picnic tables and a rest room there, so it provided us with more of a reprieve than we had planned.

While we ate lunch, we were entertained by a Wester Scrub-jay who had perfected the art of performing for food. If I had been in downtown Salt Lake, I would have expected him to be playing a musical instrument with a hat on the ground asking for tips.

the weather started to turn a bit, and we started to wonder if we should be in slot canyons at this point. So, we went to Kodakrome Basin State Park Visitor Center and asked them for a weather report. Things weren’t positive.

However, we were determined and we wanted to see what things would be like. So, we headed to the Willis Creek trail head. The weather started to look a little better, and I was determined to get the two geocaches located in the this slot canyon. So, we unwisely pursued our goals.

The canyon was very beautiful, and in my opinion (most of our group disagreed with me) was the best part of our weekend. I loved having the creek flowing by as we walked, and I thought that the lines and formations (including arch near our turn around point) were better than what Round Valley Draw had to offer.

Just as we were approaching the second geocache available in this canyon, the weather really started to turn nasty. Our group was determined that we should turn back. But I encourage them to go another few hundred feet for the cache and they agreed. When we not near the coords and as the weather got worse, I decided that the cache was going to require more work than the time we had could offer. So, we turned around.

We made it out of the canyon just fine. But the weather really wasn’t acting friendly. We decided that before we took the next trip the next morning we should at least see what we are up against. So, we headed down the road from Willis Creek to Bull Valley Gorge. We managed to see the truck that has become a part of the landscape, and to get a little picture of what the canyon would require.

The whole time we had in the back of our minds that there was a good chance that we would not be making this hike. On our way out of the area, the rain really started to poor. And we were thinking that it might be in our best interest to get a motel for the night. But instead we headed to a local joint, and had a burger for dinner.

Just about the time we finish dinner the rain subsided a bit, and we decided to go find a place to camp. We found beautiful site where we set up camp, started a fire, shot off a few round from a 9mm hand gun, then went to sleep.

It rained most of the night and by morning we had decided that it wouldn’t be safe to attempt bull Valley Gorge. Which was too bad, because it was probably going to be the most fun part of our weekend. However, safety must play out when it comes to slot canyons and rain.

So, we grabbed a bite to eat at Ruby’s near Bryce Canyon, then headed home. It wasn’t until I got home that I realized that I left my camera at the trail head register for Willis Creek. So, I made a few phone calls, and the great men and women from Kodachrome Basin and Grand Staircase-Escalante worked with me and managed to get my camera back to me. Big pat on the back to them, and the honest citizen who turned my camera in.

Despite the bad weather and the lost camera, it was a great trip, and I look forward to my trip next year. Hope you enjoy the pictures and my retelling of the story as much as I enjoyed the adventure.

Round Valley Draw Entrance

Round Valley Draw as It Opens Up

Flower On the Exit from Round Valley Draw

Top of Exit Looking Back at Round Valley Draw

Hoodoos Near Round Valley Draw

Grosvenor Arch

Western Scrub-jay Who Entertained Us at Lunch

Willis Creek

Unnamed Arch Inside Willis Creek

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Take Back Utah Rally

Travis Grant — Fri, 07 Aug 2009 23:51:57 +0000

Not to point the blame at one individual, but as and example, I would like to look back to the Clinton Administration. With one stroke of his mighty pen he created the Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument. It was done under the guise of the Antiquities acts. His motive was the protection of the wilderness.

Bit by bit the state of Utah has been snatched up by the Federal Government. LaVar Christensen has a great piece on this history. Some claim it as protecting the environment. Some claim that the land serves a great good to the public be being public land.

I don’t necessarily disagree that it serves us better as public land. However, I completely disagree that it is the Federal Government that should protect it. In fact, I believe that it is unconstitutional.

I love playing in Utah’s backyard. I love the beautiful mountains. I enjoy playing in the red rock country. I relax in our many lakes. I would fish in our many rivers, but it is a skill I have yet to accomplish. It is frustrating to know that because of the federal control over these areas, I have less freedom to enjoy it they way I want. We need to fight this control. Not just because of the right to play, but also for the sovereignty that is due our state by the constitution.

This taking of Utah’s land (more that 65% of the state is federal land) hurts Utah. It reduces our freedom; it reduces our property; it reduces our rights; it reduces the land we can play on; it reduces the land that we can own; it reduces our state’s tax revenues; it diminishes our sovereignty as a state. And we must fight to take our land back.

That’s why I would love to attend the Parade and Rally that is going on tomorrow. Unfortunately, I can’t. I have two family obligations that will keep me from attending any of it. But I will be there in spirit. If you can make it to any part of this, please think of me. Please consider that there is at least one other person there in spirit.

This rally can bring about great change. I hope that the Take Back Utah Organization will work with the Patrick Henry Caucus to legal claim our lands back to where they belong. They belong in the hands of either the citizens or the state. The people who use this land should have a say in how it is control. I agree that we need to Take Back Utah.

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Coyote Gulch

Travis Grant — Tue, 30 Jun 2009 05:29:37 +0000

A year ago you might remember my post about a trip that I made to Paranuweap Canyon. Well, I made a similar trip again this year, but this time to Coyote Gulch. We also added one more person to our group.

On May 15th, I headed down to the Grand Staircase Escalante National Monument with the same friend as last year. Since we left as soon as I finished work, and because of a brief detour to Fish Lake on the trip down, we arrived after night fall, and slept out under the stars about 3 miles west of the Jacob Hamblin Arch Entrance. the best part of the trip down was the chance to find a few quick and easy geocaches. Sure it extended the trip, but for me it was well worth it. My friend seemed to agree.

After breakfast the next morning we headed east to the entrance. This was perhaps the worst part of the trip. It involved a 25 foot downward climb into the mouth of the canyon. The drop was very steep, and there was time where I almost fell, but I managed to keep my balance and the descent was successful.

When we arrived at the base we felt like we had landed in the Garden of Eden. It was still very early and the air was very crisp and fresh. With the cool air and beautiful lighting no picture can capture what we experienced.

After a short drip upstream to check out the awe inspiring Jacob Hamblin Arch, we headed down stream to Coyote Natural bridge. While We enjoyed a couple of nice stops on the way, including some great formation in the water, to a “hanging rock formation. But Coyote Natural Bridge was the best stop along the way.

After Coyote Natural Bridge, only two of us were able to continue on because of family obligations by the other half of the party. So, we continued on to see some petroglyphs and then a small waterfall, and Cliff Arch. While at Cliff Arch I had the distinct pleasure of watching a hawk circle above me and look for pray. I hope he wasn’t mistaking me for pray.

After a brief rest, we returned back to the entrance. While there were other options for entering and exiting the canyon, we decided that the Jacob Hamblin entrance would be the best. But before we ascended to our camp, we first went back to the see the other side of Jacob Hamblin arch, it is was well worth it. You can see the arch in it’s magnitude. It just seems to strech on forever.

After our ascent, and seeing that we had a few minutes to spend, we went to find the geocache located at Dance Hall Rock, and to enjoy a little bit of history. Interesting to know that even in trying times the early pioneers of Utah found time to dance and entertain themselves in this hot arid desert.

After finding the cache we drove to the trail head the lead to Peek-a-boo canyon and Spooky canyon. These were two great canyons, but both for different reasons. We camped at the trail head over night, and we thought for sure that the wind was going to blow us down to the base, but sleeping in the bed of the truck kept us safe.

Peek-a-boo was a more technical climb. We didn’t need any ropes, but it did involve some climbing, and supporting of each other to get through some parts of the climb. It was also fun to see the small arches that dotted the slot canyon.

After completing Peek-a-boo, which we measured as being as narrow as 9.5 inches at one point, we hiked over the the beginning of Spooky. This was awe inspiring because you got to see the wash that lead into Spooky. It was very wide, and a ton of water must have flowed through here at one point.

After a few minutes in Spooky, I soon learned why it had earn the name. If you have the slightest case of claustrophobia, then I would suggest that you not try this canyon. If I had been a lone, I think that I would have just freaked out, and turned around when we were only a few hundred feet from the end.

After finishing Spooky, and taking a short break, my friend talked me into hiking up Dry Fork Gulch with him. While the hike up the fork wasn’t anything too fantastic, the route that we took back to camp was great. The worst part of the trip was this is where I dropped my GPS and the screen smacked against a rock and cracked. It was rendered useless.

We decided after the hike up the gulch that we would take the “high road” back to camp. So we followed unmarked paths back. It was neat because we got to see some great rock formations and some beautifully blooming cactii.

At this point I was ready to go home. But my friend was determined to do one more slot canyon. He had had his heart set on hiking Zebra Canyon for several years, and he didn’t want to miss this oppertunity. So after helping a stranded truck fix their car and get headed back out of the canyon, we stopped a the trail head to Zebra Canyon.

The trip in was long, hot, and boring. The most intresting thing we saw was a slight coloration of the rocks that made it look a litte (okay very little) like Jesus Christ. It must have been the hot sun getting to me, I know.

Eventually, we made it to the mouth of Zebra and it was very nice. As you might well imagine, it is named Zebra Canyon, because it is striped in white and orange. There were a couple of technical (just a hand up) point, and it ended in a couple of keeper pots.

The trip back to the car seemed shorter than the trip to the canyon, and the ride home was nice. I wasn’t as exhausted as last years trip, and I really enjoyed this camp out. I hope you enjoyed the ride along with me.

Just as a note, you might notice that many of these pictures were used in the title splash of this site. I hope to take a some time to use other pictures I have taked these past couple of years, especially those from my Paranuweap trip.

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Another Move

Travis Grant — Wed, 17 Jun 2009 04:54:29 +0000

Okay, in the time that I have been blogging, I have had four different sites. First, I started at Writers on the Loose (WOTL). WOTL is a great group of people, and there are several writers there who are worth reading. While my stay was only short at WOTL, it helped me to learn that I have a passion for writing. Even if my editing ability is lacking.

Then I spent a long time at Blog-City and for the most part I was happy with their free service. I really had no intention of leaving. However, they started to charge, and I decided that what they offered wasn’t worth the fee. So, I moved on.

Most of my reader’s will know my from my WordPress account called Gazelem. I really enjoyed my stay. However, for a long time, I have seriously contemplated moving away from the name Gazelem. While I think it is a great name, it is a rather loaded name. So, I finally decided to move on.

I have been debating what to call my new blog. I thought of Grantastic, Grantabulous, Grantilicious, Grantemonium, and a few others that played off of my last name, but most of them just didn’t work for me. So, I thought that I would use the word Utah in the name, because accept for my personal life, I talk mostly about Utah Politics.

I considered Utah We Love Thee, because when I was at WOTL, that is what I used and it is the State Hymn for Utah (it used to be the state song, but that was change a few years back to Utah, This is the Place). And honestly, I love Utah. But Utah We Love Thee just seemed a little old fashioned.

I was really excited when I finally thought of The Utah Arrow. I was almost ready to go with that, but then I thought I might get entangled in a lawsuit with a local radio station, and I just didn’t want to have that as a possible mess. Besides, what do arrows have to dow with Utah besides the plethora of arrowheads you can find in this state.

Then it came to me. Utah’s Arch seems to captivate some of the things that I want this blog to be. First, it is about Utah. Second, I love arches, and Utah’s scenic red rock country has many of them. Also, the word Arch combined with Utah almost has a news-like feel to the name.

Arch can also serve as a great acronym for the block. A is for Analysis, where I hope to provide a critical assessment on the local news and events. R is for Rhetoric, since a lot of what you see here will hopefully be persuasive. C is for Colloquy, because I want you to get involved and comment and discuss the issues. And H is for Heuristics, where I would like to look at the past as our trial and error test, that we might learn for the future. Okay, I admit that last one is a bit of a stretch, but it works.

Another couple of acronyms could be America, Republican, Church, and Home which is a pretty good description of myself. But I hope that I also fit the acronym of Amicable, Relevant, Common Sense, and Humorous. There are probably others, but I think you get the idea. I love the Arch.

Anyway, welcome to my new home on the net. I hope you enjoy it, because I plan on staying here for a while.

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Sandy's Blog

Travis Grant — Sat, 18 Oct 2008 03:38:43 +0000

Well, after following my blog for years, my dear wife has finally given into the addiction called blogging. She followed my ill-advised advice, and used WordPress. After a brief training session, she finally has a new post. It is the talk she offered at her grand father’s funeral.

So, please take a minute to check it out.

Oh, and don’t expect much politics over there. She doesn’t find it as interesting as I do. But you will probably learn more about us through her blog, then you will through mine.

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SODO: Cheesy Chicken and Rice

Travis Grant — Mon, 29 Sep 2008 18:58:18 +0000

Well, as thouse who follow my twitter account already know, I have put the dutcho ovens away for the year. However, shortly after I put them away, I pulled them out again. Last Wednesday my daughter’s school held Parent Teacher Conference. And to show our teacher appreciation for the extra long hours, our School Parent’s Organization provide dinner for the teachers on that day.

Last year my wife made a delicious Chicken Corn Chowder. And this year, I thought that it would be a good excuse to use the Dutch Ovens one last time. So, I pulled them out of storage.

For this recipe, I decided that we would try one of our families favorite oven recipes in the oven. It’s pretty simple.

4 chicken breast halves
4 Tbsp of butter
1 Tbsp of basil
1 Package of Chicken Flavor Rice and Past Mix
2 Cups water
1 Medium Tomato (sliced)
1 Cup shredded mozzarella cheese

Brown the chicken with in the butter. Coat the chicken with Basil.

Saute the rice pasta mix in the the remaining fat until the pasta is brown. Then add chicken and water.

Cook in 350 degree dutch oven until rice is tender (approx. 1 hour). I recommend that more heat is on the bottom for this recipe. Then add sliced tomatoes and shredded cheese to the top of mix until cheese is melted (approx. 5 minutes).

For this time cooking it we used Zatarans Chick Flavored rice for this recipe, and it tasted different than usual. I think it was because the rice is different than the brand that we usually use (store brand).

Also, the chicken started out partly frozen, so it ended up being very dry. However, it was delicious, and I can’t wait to try it in a dutch oven again, when I have a little more time.

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100 Push Ups: Week 2 Exhaustion Test

Travis Grant — Mon, 15 Sep 2008 21:06:33 +0000

After the Conferences on Saturday, I put my kids to bed, then did some last minute Internet time wasting, before I remembered that I needed to do my exhausion test.

After the 2nd week of the One Hundred Push Ups program, you are supposed to test yourself. While it is priimarily to see where you belong during week three, I used it to psyche myself up and help me to see that I am improving.

I didn’t want to psyche myself out by counting them. So, I had my wife count for me. I was afraid that by knowing that I was past my 15 mark, that I would just give up too early.

25.

I did 25 pushups. That is 10 more than I idid two weeks ago. While it isn’t the improvement that I would like to see so that I can complete this program in six weeks. It is an improvement. I am excited to see more improvement as I go through the program.

I think that part of my problem was that I didn’t (couldn’t) complete the final set of all but one of the days’ workouts. Usually, I would fall on my knees with one to three more pushups to do. I would rest for a few seconds, then complete the set.

Perhaps, I should repeat week 2, but twenty-five push ups are enough for me to go to week 3 if I move to the second column. So, that’s what I am going to do. I have been thinking through these past two weeks that it would probably be a better fit for me.

So, tonight, I will be doing 83 or more pushups. Wow, that sounds crazy. But I know that I can do it.

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Things to Consider Before You Start a Blog

Travis Grant — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 04:01:01 +0000

I was recently asked by a friend “what are the top 20 issues, technical or otherwise that someone might face who is learning to blog?” While he wasn’t looking for a lot a details, I decided that I would give him the details, and now I figured that I would share it here.

Twenty issues huh? Well, that’s and interesting question, and would be a long list, but let me try.

First of all, not many of my answers will address technical issues. I think that this is primarily because most blogs are pretty easy to use. Not much different than and email program. But it could be that I am more technically savvy than most people, and I just don’t get too bothered by technical problems.

1 – Getting people to read it
If you are going to blog, you obviously want people to read it. The best way to get people to read your blog is to comment on other’s blogs. Be sure to leave your blog address when you do, and I am sure you will get a few readers.

2 – Finding time to post regularly
This is more closely related to the first one than many may realize. But if you aren’t writing regularly then readers aren’t going to come.

3 – Which host site to use
While there are several free hosting sites. The two biggest are blogger.com (or blogspot.com) and wordpress.com. I personally recommend wordpress.com. It seems that there is a lot more available to the user. However, blogspot is amazingly simple. And thus easier to use. But you lose out on a lot of features. I would take the harder to learn over the easier to learn just so that when you learn the ropes, you will have all the features you might like.

You can also have a blog at your own site (i.e,. www.readmythoughts.com). This is far more complicated to opperate, but people with some Internet publishing skills can usually figure it out. Again, I reccommend the blog freely available at www.wordpress.org (note that it ends in .org and not .com).

4 – Dealing with mean comments
I would often just stop posting when people were belligerent. But now, I have a better understanding of what works for me. No real advise here, I think this is different for everyone.

5 – Spelling and grammar errors
While most programs offer spell check of some sort, it will miss something. And they all miss grammatical problems. So, you are going to have to reread your post again and again. I don’t do that. Hence, all the errors.

6 – What to write about
Some of this is personal preference, but I struggled with how much politics, how much personal, and how much misc. I have gotten over it mostly. And I have a very eclectic blog. But I like it that way. Some blogs are very specific. For example, they talk only Utah Politics, or the LDS Religion. Some are strictly personal, almost like a journal (the original concept behind blogging). And some are eclectic like mine.

7 – Whether to tell friends and family
This may be more of my issue. But for me there are probably only 4 or 5 of my family members (actually they are all my wife’s family) who know about my blog. But for me, I really don’t care to share it with them. At first, my wife didn’t know about it, but eventually I told her, and now she reads every post. I know, because she always corrects my grammar.

8 – How to follow stats
There are several stats counters out there. I use statcounter.com, but there are others. Which one is the best, I really don’t know. I just want some data, and statcounter.com provides me with what I want, so I never really looked at anything else. With WordPress you have stats provided to you, so you may not want a separate counter.

9 – Putting too much emphasis on stats
Some people worry too much that there stats are too low. Then they use this as a reason to stop writing. But it isn’t a popularity contest.

10 – Protecting family
With young children in the home, I try to keep my kids IDs somewhat hidden. For example, they all have nicknames (PandaMae, Miss Jo, BO, Miss Kay, Capt. Z, and Flash). Also, I try to avoid saying much more than I live in Riverton, UT. But I slip up sometimes.

11 – Learning how to promote the site
You don’t have to pay anybody to promote your site. Just link to a lot of stuff, and encourage people to link back to your. This is the number 1 way to get your site listed higher in the search engines.

12 – Understanding trackbacks
This is a feature available in WordPress and some other blogging programs (not blogger/blogspot). If more people understood this, they would use it. It’s a way to comment on another’s blog while posting on your own blog. This way people who are interested in that topic, will follow a link to get you take on the same topic.

13 – Learning the software
As with all software there can be a learning curve. I will repeat that blogspot is pretty easy to learn, and wordpress harder. But the features come to play.

14 – Understanding etiquette
If you have a private conversation with someone, keep it private. The Web is the public. Watch what you say about others. There are other ettiquette rules, But you can search for them.

15 – Writing for writings sake and not fame
A lot of first time bloggers write hoping to make a lot of money and become famous. It probably won’t happen. So forget about it. Enjoy the process of writing and you will have fun blogging.

Well, that’s 15. I know that there was at least one more. But I am drawing a blank on it. Hope this helps. If you are asking because you are considering blogging. Let me know about your site, and I will link to it.

Since I sent that email to him I remember the other item. That was read other’s blog. Basically that give you ideas of what to write about. Also it can be a great place to promote you blog.

Anyway, these are just what I came up with. Are there any more that you could add to the list.

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SODO: Orange Knot Rolls

Travis Grant — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 23:02:15 +0000

I promised to post this two days ago, and yesterday, so I better get it posted, or you will all have me on a stake. Right now you might think I am just talking silly, but when you eat these, you will change your mind.

While on our Camp last week, we tried something that we haven’t ever had. We haven’t even had this done in a modern oven. But they sounded good.

Before I share the recipe, I should let you know that we got the recipe from Rhodes Bake-N-Serv. They offer great recipes for those who buy their product. But my wife and I are too cheap to pay their price, so we just use her Fridge Dough recipe that I shared with you earlier.

Then we followed the recipe modified for the dutch oven:

12 Dinner Rolls, thawed by still cold (we divided 1 loaf worth of fridge dough)
1 Orange rind, grated
1/2 cup sugar
1/4 cup butter, melted

Citrus glaze:
1 cup powdered sugar
1 tablespoon butter, melted
3 tablespoons orange juice (we just used the juice from the orange that we rinded).
1/2 teaspoon vanilla extract

Mix grated orange rind with sugar. Roll each roll into a 9-inch rope. Tie in a loose knot. Roll each knot in melted butter (was melted in the dutch oven) and then in rind/sugar mixture. Place in dutch oven with remaining melted butter. Cover and let rise until double in size. Bake at 350F for 20-25 minutes. Poor citrus glaze on rolls before serving.

They were good. The only reason we had any left over was because I was full already, and I could imagine stuffing myself any more. But there were gone early the next day.

I am still trying to figure out how to keep breads from getting over done on the bottom, and how to brown the tops. This time we tried flipping th rolls. This worked, but it was difficult and messy. I think that I am going to try putting more coals on top, and less on the bottom next time.

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